Member Asgen Karlson
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I just spoke to my father, who for years has been a supporter of the idea that Barnes puts forth. He's recently used Berger bullets to good effect. Per him “Nothing I have shot with either one has lived”. He did mention that he has never recovered a bullet from either brand, but is convinced that the Bergers create a larger exit hole, and have better ballistic properties.
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Considering you'd be going from a .308 to a .30-06, you would only need to ream a new chamber in the existing barrel. They shoot the exact same bullets as they're both .30 Cal
In that case you would need to remove the existing barrel, set it back half a thread, cut the new chamber for .30-06 and put it back on. There's no getting around the need for the long bolt stop though.
I'd suggest just waiting and see after you get everything put together if you're going to have problems. I don't foresee much problem with the magazines really. The .308 is essentially a cut down .30-06, so they have basically the same outside dimensions, they're just a bit shorter.
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My smith also cursed me out when he had to take the barrel off my .270 T3 for it's .280 Ackley replacement barrel. My dad has a 695 that he had re-barreled as well.
Tikkas are notorious for having a tight fitted barrel. They are threaded, not hydraulically pressed, however they do have thread locker on the first couple of threads, and tight tolerances. My smith soaked the entire action/barrel interface in penetrating oil for two days before putting it in the barrel vise for removal and did it himself. He mentioned that he bought a longer bar for more torque, but didn't want to have to use it for fear of twisting the action. He got it off with the regular bar after giving the oil time to work.
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Great points. I'm sure when Jason makes it back from SHOT he'll take this into consideration. Always nice to have more opinions. I'm just biding my time for the announcement of the bigger ones.
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It's the same book that the OP mentioned. He actually linked directly to the main page, the link I posted is basically just the shop page for the main site, and has this and several of his other books listed as well.
Hope this helped. I wanted to be able to find it on Amazon, but sadly, the one mentioned isn't available there, though a couple others are.
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My dogs woke me up in the middle of the night so I thought I'd dig around on the interwebs at 0320 and find this for you.
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When I first purchased my used Tikka T3 to build into my .280 Ackley Improved, it was also a blued T3 Lite in .270 Win. I payed $450 at the gun shop, and it looked as if it hadn't been shot. With the rail and cheek riser, you could throw in a bit more of course.
As for modifications, the Tikka Performance center from Mountain Tactical produces parts and pieces specifically made to fit the T3. I'd suggest a new metal bolt shroud (factory is plastic), steel recoil lug, replacement aluminum bottom metal (factory piece is plastic) and hardened action screws, and you've already got a rail. Just about all of those will be able to be transferred to a different stock later on if you so choose.
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That's about where I've got mine, but it must be a longer tube than your model since it clears the front of the rail just fine. I think Vortex has approximately the same eye relief on most of their scopes, so you're in the ballpark for a good sight picture. I'd suggest removing a notch or two, or just making it receiver length and touching up the metal with paint to match if it won't fit right.
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I have tried that. My fireform loads group quite well and spit a 139 Hornady Interlock on average 2870 fps. It doesn't compare to what I'm getting with full up AI loads of 180 Berger Hybrid Targets and around 3000 fps. I haven't tested enough to see what works best, and am still waiting for the long action DBM to be able to load a longer COAL.
I don't know how typical similar results would be for someone else, my barrel's 32″ and not the easiest to unlimber in the field. Sitting down or prone though… Just about anything you see, you own.
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Keep in mind J that you can purchase .280 Ackley brass from Nosler, now that it's standardized. They also sell loaded ammunition.
The .284 Win is also a winner when you consider that it's fairly easy to get components, and it's not as difficult to load longer bullets since it's a shorter fatter alternative. I've also never understood why 6.5mm is more popular than the 7mm when the 7's have better ballistics.
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These are what I've been using since my smith put one down my freshly cleaned barrel and it came out dirtier than I care to admit. Screw them down tighter to the base of the adapter, and they flare out a little. Don't screw them down hardly at all (my smith machined off about half of the threading on the adapter) and they're fairly small. If you get the super intensive ones that have intwerwoven brass fibers, you don't even have to change rod tips, just pellet types.
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Best 'magnum' without going to a different bolt face than the .30-06 is probably going to be the .280 Ackley Improved.
You're not going to find 'true' magnum performance in the .30-06 bolt face, but it comes the closest that I've been able to find, and uses the incomparable ballistics of the 7mm platform. If you end up getting a barrel with a twist of 1:7.5 of 1:8 you should be able to handle the heaviest of projectiles, including the esteemed Berger 195gr EOL. (Still jealous that I've only got a 1:8.5)
With the .280 AI you can still fire factory .280 Remington from it in a pinch, and can find factory loaded ammo since the cartridge was standardized by Nosler.
If you're really feeling the need to go to a true 'magnum', you're going to need a different bolt face.
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260 Remington Ackley Improved if you're going for 6.5mm
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I should probably have clarified a bit. I love my set up, and if you're running a stock size barrel, low rings should work fine clearance wise. Still a good idea to wait and see where your scope will be comfortable for you though.
So, in answer to the original question, with a rail, and medium rings, even with a palma contour, clearance probably won't be an issue.
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Eric, I've got the Vortex low rings with MT 20MOA rail mounting a 6-24 Viper HS 30mm tube 50mm objective and it works great. It barely clears my barrel, and I can't use the scope covers that came with it, but my barrel is a lot thicker than factory.
