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Havent been commenting for a long time. Althoug I do check in every now and then. Last time I chatted here. There was a couple of guys whom seem to be the guys that is in the know and very friendly. Helped me a bunch!!! Was very gratefull for them.

Hope this forum dont die a slow death.

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Yea you might get a doughnut, but this won’t happen in less than what? 6-8 reloads min? Your primer pockets will relax long before you need to deal with reaming necks due to “doughnuts” if your loading hot enough to worry.
I say this without scientific evidence.  If I’m wrong I apologize , but the doughnut occurs when target shooters re-use cases numerous times and neck size.
Use bushing dies as you like, if you see a problem near The neck (doghnut) then just full length resize and anneal.
The doughnut thing is not a problem for most shooters even competition.

thanks for your reply. Guess its going to be a learning curve for me as a newbie no matter what I do. Appreciate every reply I get.

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I’d just do it by hand a little at a time , and there’s no such thing has a silly question ( I do realise somebody’s going to prove me wrong ), just silly answers

Thanks a lot do appreciate your reply.

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77's will fit your mag as is.  80's won't.

Thank you, looks like I got lucky. Bought my WR6 mag yesterday. Now hoping it will be here in the next week or two.

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You will eventually get the “doughnut” when using a bushing neck die because the bushing does not go all the way to the shoulder neck junction.  Simple neck turning will make it go away.

Thanks for the reply. How often would you neck turn to prevent the “doughnut” effect?

Sorry for my ignorance, still learning.

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Sorry don’t know which bushing , has I use mighty Armoury dies https://www.mightyarmory.com/collections/sizing-dies/products/ma223fl-sizing-die-coming-soon

Okay thanks anyway. As soon as my load development is done I will post some results.

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Good shooting for a beginner , in my .223 12/1 twist I use sako brass , Berger 52 gn target bullets (22408) 24 gn Vihtavuori 133 , cci Br primers ,when it had a tikka barrel if I was doing the right thing it would shoot .5 moa , do you have a rear bag ? If not get one ,If you have an 8/1 try Lapua brass 77 gn smk’s over 24.2 gn Vihtavuori 140 , cci Br primer , which I think is getting close to max load so start lower and work up , checking for pressure signs

Thanks for the reply! I did use a rear bag yes and my rifle is a 8/1 twist. Was looking at the 77gn smk's but was not sure if it would fit the factory mag if loaded 0.30 off the lands. Going to use redding fl bushing die. You might not know by any chance what the bushing size is if loaded with Lapua brass?

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Don’t get me wrong there’s nothing wrong with N5’s you just have to be aware when your getting to the high end of the case capacity

I agree, a compressed load is not something I would try as a newbie. Maybe much later when I am more educated and informed. Learning already a bunch. And lucky to have this group and friends here close by that would guide me.

Thanks for your replies. Appreciate it

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For 77 grain smk’s I use Vihtavuori N140 the N5 powders are double based and can give slightly more pressure

O okay, I am still learning thanks for the heads up.

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Hi I am new here.

Would Hate to see this Forum die before I even can get started. Love the posts on here and it seems like there are a view here that really help out others.

As soon as I have my rifle I will share all my load data and experiences. Think it is important to have like minded people talking about what is new and help others join in.

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I shoot mine with heavier bullets and Vihtavuori powder (a Super Varmint, 600mm/24” barrel) so can’t say anything about those bullets/powder but for 69 gr Scenar i use 23.2 gr VV135 powder. Very accurate load.
I normally shoot 73 & 75 gr ELD Match, 77gr Scenars and 80gr Berger VLD loaded with VV 140 powder, 24.2-24.3 gr / 22.6 gr respectively. All the heavier bullets shoot great at 300 meters and 77 Scenar & 80 Berger shoot crazy accurate.
The ELD’s have MV at 885 mps, Scenar 875 mps and the Berger at 825 mps at 10 degree Celsius. You do the math …

I am based in South africa and varget is in very limited quantities here so will be using the Vhutavouri here to. I see their new N540 powder is great for the heavies. (70-80gr) Have you given it a try?

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Exactly what i am planning to do. Will give some feedback this weekend just for intrest sake. 😉