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cleaning a t3 lite barrel
The directions say not to brush, just use a patch and oil when clean. Does everybody do this with Tikka's and what is the best product for no brushing?
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I've only used “bore snakes” with a brush on my guns….rifles and shotguns, it does a great job.
I've never seen the need to use anything else. Hobbe's #9 cleaner & copper solvent for regular use and Hobbe's Elite foaming cleaner when it's really dirty (be careful with this one on gun finishes), and a good oil after has not let me down.Can honestly say I have never cleaned my personal guns with a rod & patch…But have friends that only use a rod & patch with a good bore guide. BUT I've seen many people damage / scratch their guns using a cheap cleaning rod incorrectly, especially around the crown.
Not knocking guys who use rod & patches, just letting you know a brush has not harmed any of my guns over years of cleaning using a bore snake.
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Hi I use a brush , patches and bore tips to clean my St/steel barrel , and I use frog lube on my tikka and my lantac Ar , everyone on here will have an opinion on cleaning and what products they use , the main reason I started using frog lub is it's none toxic to my dogs and it works for me , I know some people who wouldn't give it house room , when I started shooting they was just a couple of people at my club who's opinion I valued , but everybody as there own way, find someone who you trust and ask them , it's normally the quiet person just getting on with his shooting that I ask and not the loudest person who thinks they know everything IMHO
In the past I've also looked at barrel manufactures website to see what they recommend for there own barrels -
Great vid for anyone interested in the topic of cleaning guns…I respect this guys opinion on most anything involving firearms…
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I am a big fan of Wipe Out. It doesn't stink, you can leave it in the bore overnight and it does a great job of removing copper fouling. No brushes…just a good jag and cotton patches will do the trick. If I do need to use a brush, I prefer to use nylon. If I am dealing with a nasty bore, JB bore paste to the rescue. If I need to just remove carbon fouling, I like using carb cleaner. For a general purpose solvent, I've come to really like Hoppe's Elite. For old school nostalgia, it is hard to beat good old Hoppe's #9 🙂 I like Tipton rods and jags and Lucas bore guides. I've also used many a Sinclair bore guide with complete satisfaction. Bottom line, only clean when accuracy goes south and protect that crown!
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Great vid for anyone interested in the topic of cleaning guns…I respect this guys opinion on most anything involving firearms…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhTwVOh0_ikCleaning from the muzzle would leave a ton of solvent and crap in the action. What a pain to clean up, after the barrel is done. No thanks.
Lucas or Sinclair bore guide, Bore Tech Bore Stix rod, their proof positive jag, and Butch's Bore Shine.
Done…
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I respect Dogdown for most things, but using a bore snake is where I disagree. get a solid stainless rod of the appropriate caliber and a good bore guide and clean from the breach. the snakes can and do collect particles that can abrade the bore. ok all that said, I am totally open to hearing what dog has to say on the matter, and am willing to change my mind.
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I didn't give you any advice as i realize. Here is my cleaning routine.
All from the breech and with bore protector.
after 30 or 40 moly coated round i take the bolt out and put the bore protector in and soak a bronz brush with bortech eliminator and stroke the bore completely 10 times at least. that means from breach to muzzel and i avoid changing direction of the brush in the barrel. then 2 or 3 dry patches with jag to dry and clean the barrel. then repeat brush if needed. if storing gun, then a Kroil soaked patch on a jag before putting away.
if patches come out green, i keep scrubbing with Butches bore shine or other to get the copper out.
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I respect Dogdown for most things, but using a bore snake is where I disagree. get a solid stainless rod of the appropriate caliber and a good bore guide and clean from the breach. the snakes can and do collect particles that can abrade the bore. ok all that said, I am totally open to hearing what dog has to say on the matter, and am willing to change my mind.
Hey Eric,
Ur not wrong in your your assumption, BoreSnake's can and do collect particles in the rifle that can abrade the bore, but so can a patch & rod, both if used incorrectly will cause bore damage. I would only use a Carbon Fibre or coated rod in my guns if I was using a rod & patch cleaning routine. I would never use a bare metal especially stainless in the barrel, if a bare rod is used most gunsmiths say it needs to be softer then the bore,… brass for example.
Like anything you have to use some common sense when cleaning your rifle with a bore snake.
If its dirty…you wash it!!! You wouldn't reuse patches, so why would you continue to use a dirty BS over and over.. They have to be washed to get rid of the old crap, do this and you won't have a problem.
I use a bucket and a mixture of soap solution to clean them (wife does not like them in the washer, so happy wife = happy life!) about every month or so depending on the amount of shooting I do at the range.
Warm water and soap and its like new again, takes minutes and then I just hang to dry.If BoreSnakes actually hurt rifle barrels in anyway HOPPE'S would be in a world of trouble…
Its a more advanced modern way of cleaning your rifle, period. Its proven to be just as effective as a rod & patch, and is the easiest method of cleaning a gun barrel for new shooters. Until you have used and examined one you can't make an honest judgement call on which is better. I like both and have not seen any better results with a rod & patch so I use a BS on all my guns now.The only time I think a rod will out perform a BS is when you have a gun that as been neglected and the barrel is completely full of copper. A rod & patch will be better for this application with the amount of cleaners / solvents you have to use.
Links for both:
http://www.guncleaningtips.com/bore-snake-bore-brush-jag-rod-and-patch-all-in-one/
http://www.guncleaningtips.com/the-best-cleaning-rods/ -
In my T3 Lite I use only M98 and Ballistol to clean and oil with a rod and patches and good bore guide and use a bore snake without the brush to pull through once or twice on the range before my first fouling shot to clear the oil from the barrel. Both methods have their merits and I cannot for life of me see why I would live without either.
Personally I don't like brushes much and prefer patches but I know plenty of people who prefer them and judging by their rifles' performance it does not seem to negatively affect them.As for damaging the crown etc it's called gun CARE for a reason.
Good shooting to all of you
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I bore snake every gun I one including pistols. My guns never get dirty enough to need anything more except for my muzzleloader. I also have a bore snake exclusively for my muzzleloader for when I'm at the range checking zero. Once I'm done at the range I use a brush and bore buster in the barrel.
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