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$3000 shipped and insured.
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offers welcome
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Sell the new guns that you just bought, move in with Greg and give him a good cleaning with soap and water, then keep him sprayed with febreze !
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Offers?
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It could be yours. Would sell without scope and rings.
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Will throw in 88 rounds of 140 A MAX's and 13 of 95 V Max's
Will throw in used brass also
144 2x used
42 1x primed and sized
76 1x used no primers -
117A
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Pendleton range 117A is one of the trickiest ranges to shoot at. many have agreed to this!
The winds blow from the ocean and are constantly switching and difficult to read.As far as the difference between the two….. the 6.5×47 is awesome! I have very little trigger time behind the 6XC but I am very impressed with it so far.
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Shot this at Pendleton 2 weeks ago with my 6.5×47 which is for sale. X ring is 5'' , 10 ring is 10''.
Have another match on the 27th and will be using the 6XC for that. Report will be coming after the match.
thanks
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Very nice.
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Attended another 1k match with the 6XC. Shot this match with a new Sightron 8-32 x 56.
http://swfa.com/Sightron-8-32×56-SIII-30mm-Riflescope-P48422.aspx
Just guessed at a load. Never tested the load. Strong wind left to right. 32 degrees in the morning 81 in the afternoon.
Windy all day38.5 of 4350
105 Hybrid
.025 of lands.
Norma brass trimmed to 1.900
OAL 2.72022moa to 1k. 7 moa of wind. got caught on 3 let offs.
3 shooters were able to hit the 5'' high 3'' wide egg at 1k. One shot was all you were allowed. I was one of the lucky ones who were able to pull this off.
Lanes 1-10.
Targets are at the base of the far hill
Just nicked it.
Even the magnums struggled in the wind.
Got caught on some wind let ups.
Eggs from the pit view.
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The only flag / flags that I have ever paid attention to at 25 yards is when I am shooting rimfires out to 200 yards. I think you develop a sixth sense for the wind over a period of time. Before I ever squeeze the trigger my thought process goes as such:
1. How much wind do I feel on my face?
2. Evaluate the wind conditions from me to the target. This being any flags available, the terrain such as grass, trees, brush, etc.
3. On a sunny day, what is the mirage doing t the target? L-R, R-L, Boil?
5. Wind direction, head wind, tail, wind, L-R, R-L.Just as an example, the last 1k match I shot we had 2 flags. One at 400 and one at 700. The only two the that I paid attention to was the 700 yard flag and what the mirage was doing at the target.
Every range is different depending on what the terrain is like. Trigger time and notes for a particular range will be your best friend.
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1. The Science Department, this is wind at the shooter, because this is the only place the shooter can judge the wind with any degree of certainty. All basis for judging the wind starts at the shooter, as experience grows so does how far out an experienced shooter can judge and understand the conditions. For new shooters you start your personal database for understanding the wind at you. No where else can you begin to understand the conditions. So, it is best to use a hand held device to verify your guess. This is reenforced visually by noting the conditions and indicators around you. Once that is done you can begin the journey towards the Art Department.
2. The Art Department is anything down range, mid, or at the target. This is never constant as wind does not flow in a straight line or in constant velocities, but rather fluctuates like waves on a beach, changing in velocity. Because it is invisible we try to down range indicators to determine it's speed, which is more easily read at the shooter. Again, as experience grows, you begin to recognize changes downrange which will effect the shot like Terrain features or the fact that mid range appears to be more important when really its just a function of the flight of bullet.
Max Ordinate is the term, which tells you the highest point of the bullet's flight. Because it is well over the line of sight this deceives a lot of shooters. Max ord for a 308 at 1000 yards is roughly 15ft over the line of sight. Because of this, the winds are stronger, in some cases quite a bit stronger because there is less resistance. This is important to understand, so if the shooters is doping a 1000 yard shot and the wind 12MPH at the shooter, it can easily be 16MPH at Max Ord… you can't see this, but it is there and happening. We see everyday. If I am shooting to 1000 yards with a 308 and I read the wind at me as 8MPH, I will instinctively dope the shot for 10MPH because I know it will be effected more because of the Max Ord. Inside ranges like 600 yards it is no longer an issue and I simply dope it for the velocity read at the shooter because the bullet is not traveling up as high.
Let no one fool you, anything down range is a guess, nothing more. You may have an educated guess and in my cases the guess maybe correct, but it starts at the shooter regardless of who it is. In winds under 10MPH it is easy to use things like Mirage, trees, or flags, etc… to help with that guess, but once you go beyond that velocity, anything above 10MPH to 12MPH all bets are off as those indicators are no longer as useful, the information gleaned at the shooter is much more important.
Terrain is another very important feature as this effects the winds velocity and effects on the bullet . I have seen a mirage in a valley running about 8MPH but because the mountains were blocking the flight of the bullet to the target below, the hold was actually no wind. At this past SHC there were more hits at 1000 than at 900 simply because of the terrain before each target. Terrain features can be seen or unseen by the shooter and still have enormous effects which, because wind is invisible the shooter will never see. Flags can be deceiving on a square range when being influenced by terrain. This will effect the flag and have no effect on the bullet. Also there are no flags in the field to use, so relying on them too heavily can have negative effects in the long run. This is why it is a guess downrange and nothing more, you have no way of knowing if there is some terrain feature between the target and the wind which will change it's velocity or direction of travel.
New shooters, build your library by doping the wind at you, as you grow as a shooter, you'll begin to extend that down range. But understand every class, when our winds are blowing 12MPH to 16MPH daily, I ask shooters, new and old alike to tell me what the wind is doing down range by looking at the grass or the trees and the answer is always the same, blowing.
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All depends what the density altitude is where you are shooting.
